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Posted: 04.17.2003 Chocolatey and delightful Now, before we go saying "it doesn't bother me, it was her business, yadda yadda yadda" lets take a step back and realize what these magazines are truely for. Call it art, call it whatever, but all they are are masturbation rags.....The "you can do anything you want and don't worry about what anyone else thinks of you, cause it doesn't matter" attitude may sound good and fine, but it really does matter what people think of you. Don't beleive me - then go down to the county courthouse in your areas and strip naked and smear chocolate syrup all over your bodies. See how fast you go to jail, make the news and never get another job other than bagging groceries at the local supermarket. [link] The only human being that gets the right for me to pay mind to things like that has their wedding band on my left-ring finger. Anyone out there care to retort?  The thing is, he is saying that while you might not care what others think, it does matter what they think. His two main arguments are: He is not really arguing that he is against nudity. He is saying society as a whole is against it, and you need to consider that when you pose nude. ¤ ¤ credit: Etan | 04.17.03 at 06:40 PM | link- -this ¤ ¤ Ignore point one, I should have finished reading the responses. Etan = dumbass. ¤ ¤ credit: Etan | 04.17.03 at 06:41 PM | link--this ¤ ¤Thanks for clarifying, Etan, because I can read, believe it or not. Considering I'm infertile, disabled and do web design from home, I'm honestly not all that concerned about either point at the moment. And for the record, the owner of the company I design for posed, too. ¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 04.17.03 at 06:43 PM | link--this ¤ ¤This is in refutation of whomever posted that quote, Robyn, not your response... Their analogy is flawed. "Public" nudity is illegal in many areas of the real world, so yes, prancing around nude in front of the courthouse may result in getting you arrested (but I bet you get more job offers, contrary to their belief). But otherwise, NO, it doesn't matter, because you're not forcing people to see anything they don't want to see. You are not tricking people into linking to the Boobie-thon. Often, rather, you give descriptions of what can be found by following the links so that anyone who thinks they might be offended by what they find there can steer clear. You do an admirable job, and I don't think anyone important (i.e. friends, family, etc) thinks any less of you (or any of you ladies) for participating. And I'm sorry, whomever wrote that, I've never felt the urge to masturbate because of something I saw in a magazine. I'm more of a "hands on" type person. This sounds like someone who is actually too paralyzed thinking about what people think of them to actually DO anything in their life except complain about the people who do what they like. ¤ ¤ credit: Mike | 04.17.03 at 06:53 PM | link--this ¤ ¤See, I read it on more of a larger scale - not just how it applies to you (you work at home, etc.) but how it applies to *all* of us. A back and forth discussion among all the commenters on the thread. But hopefully I stated that clearly in my other comment. (If I didn't - I'm stating it here.) On the grand scale, people don't always stop to think about what they would do if the "wrong person" (child, boss, friend, parent, spouse) would do if they found their blog. And we should. I dealt with this a lot at the beginning of the year while job hunting, and put measures in to place in case I want to post something I want to keep under restricted access. May not apply to you, but it does apply to a lot of us... ¤ ¤ credit: Christine | 04.17.03 at 06:54 PM | link--this ¤ ¤I'd like to see this guy walking in Ontario Canada where it's legal for a woman to be topless in public....where a man can go topless, so can a woman.. ¤ ¤ credit: Dania | 04.17.03 at 06:59 PM | link--this ¤ ¤or shirtless...whatever.. I agree with Christine, i'm pretty sure he was talking about the gammut of people who did it. Not specifically pointing the finger at one person specifically. ¤ ¤ credit: Dania | 04.17.03 at 07:03 PM | link--this ¤ ¤Dania, read his entire comment. He actually wrote: I am all for if a woman wants to walk around bare chested as a man, than it should be fine. We should not be ashamed of that nor should it be taboo, however, this is not what the majority of the judea-christian western civilization thinks is acceptable, so I simply have to accept that. ¤ ¤ credit: Etan | 04.17.03 at 07:03 PM | link--this ¤ ¤Sorry Christine -- but when they state "smear chocolate syrup all over your bodies", it most certainly does apply to me on an individual scale. I'm the only one that did that in her Boobie-Thon photos. ¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 04.17.03 at 07:10 PM | link--this ¤ ¤okay well just ignore everything I said...heh *insert foot into mouth I will say however, that if my children found pictures of my boobs on the internet, they have already seen more than what people have seen on this website. My bare chest. As for employers, I don't care about that either, what I do is my own damn business, and I could prolly sue the pants of anyone who decided to fire me because I have my CLOTHED boobs on someones website. I'm not ashamed, and I would do it again. I did it for the cause, not to get guys rocks off, if anyone thought that's what it was for, then they're wrong. As for the penis thing...you know, since being on the internet pushing almost 10 years now, I have seen a lot of stuff and i'm desensitized to it all (hence MY ass on my page bahaha) No one forced anyone to click on the "boobie page" no one is forcing anyone to go to the penis blog. If someone has a problem with it, don't go there! I just don't understand how people can make opinions of others when they they don't know them from Adam. ¤ ¤ credit: Dania | 04.17.03 at 07:32 PM | link--this ¤ ¤I saw that about the chocolate in his comment - but I didn't connect that with your photo until after writing my own comment. I read it - and responded - on the "grand scheme of things" applying to "everyone". That's why I added my second comment - because what I wrote was meant more about how we as bloggers (collective we, not just you and me) don't always stop to think about what we put online. I had never thought about that until I was tryinig to get a job in the legal field. Now BigPinkCookie has been linked by sites like Bag & Baggage - a legal site that my boss knows about. Oy. No telling what he could find out about me if he dug just a little bit. Sorry if I didn't write it as clearly as I was thinking it (in my over sugared head - why, why did I eat that lollipop?! Must have been an oral thing after all the penii talk!) ¤ ¤ credit: Christine | 04.17.03 at 07:34 PM | link--this ¤ ¤I'd also like to add that it's legal here in Ontario for woman to be topless in public. Not many do it....yet. ¤ ¤ credit: kimmie | 04.17.03 at 07:38 PM | link--this ¤ ¤The problem basically boils down to our prudish society. It's a shame that nudity bothers the average person so much. I let my kids in the shower and bathroom with me whenever they want. I want them to see that I'm not ashamed of my body so that they won't be ashamed of theirs either. Nothing will change on a large scale if we don't start trying to change things on a smaller scale. Bravo to the people brave enough to go nude on the web and connect their name to their pix. And, btw, I wouldn't mind it if I found nude pix of my mother. Who cares if some guys masturbated to her? I'm sure my father did. What's wrong with being a turn on? Why must we all be neutral ... and neutered? Go MOM! ¤ ¤ credit: bhw | 04.17.03 at 08:02 PM | link--this ¤ ¤I think I hear my father spinning in his grave, based on my last comment. 8-) ¤ ¤ credit: bhw | 04.17.03 at 08:03 PM | link--this ¤ ¤-this ¤ ¤I think "garbanzabean" must be about my age (no, not in the 20's or 30's as is stated). But he/she has got way too much guilt in their system to do them any good. Either that or he/she has a stick up their ass the size of a California redwood. Hell, yeah, I've done stuff I've regretted later and am not proud of now. That doesn't mean it is all bad. Doesn't mean it was all good. It just was; I can't rewrite history. Can any one of us say that we won't be worried later for about we have done? My kids have seen my most embarrassing college moments caught on film (yeah, there are too many of those!) and yes, I was worried they would think less of me. Turns out they see me in a different light and maybe see me more as a person instead of someone who just says "NO" a lot. I have loosened up abit around them also and treat them more like equals instead of children. Of course, the baby is 18 years old. As far as I see it, the Boobie-thon was not full of nudity; as far as I could see (sorry, Robyn, I haven't visited the site in quite a few months now) there was absolutely NO full nudity. There was near nudity - lingerie, wet T-shirts, fishnets, bras, etc. All in all less than you would see in any Sports Illustrated Swim Suit issue. Actually it was all quite teasingly pleasing. The Penis Blog, is quite different. There is full nudity there; no, I am not offended (in many cases I am quite jealous) but it's not something I'd do; at least not without a camera lens that magnifies. :( Believe me, garbanzabean, it really DOESN'T matter what other people think. You can't change what others think about you anyway. Ask any politician. ¤ ¤ credit: BillH | 04.17.03 at 09:01 PM | link--this ¤ ¤Excuse me while I pack my bags for a short break to Ontario Canada. Who wants to carry my bags for me? -this ¤ ¤*raises hand tentatively* Can we stop off in Saskatchewan? I miss the "homeland". ¤ ¤ credit: Mike | 04.17.03 at 10:35 PM | link--this ¤ ¤Hey, since I'm not "judeo" or "christian", can I show my boobies to whoever I damn well please??? ;-) Oh, wait, I don't need permission for that. ¤ ¤ credit: Tracy | 04.18.03 at 08:14 AM | link--this ¤ ¤
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