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Posted: 01.06.2003
Just your average Joe
averagejoe.jpg As a rule, we avoid "reality TV" like the plague around here. After Survivor I, it was pretty much all downhill. But we found ourselves both strangely curious about the new FOX show "Joe Millionaire". It just had that bad accident quality you couldn't quite look away from no matter how hard you tried. Rubbernecking at primetime's not-so-finest, if you will.

I don't even know what to say about tonight's episode. Or what was more pathetic. All of the stacked bimbos cooing about their "fairy tale" and Prince Charming dreams -- or the fact the bachelor kept trying to figure out which one of the women would actually like him for him. Let's see. You make $19K a year Joe. You don't have a college degree. These women think you're worth $50 mil. They got a free trip to France, and room and board in a nice chateau. I'm sure if this had been titled "Who wants to marry a poverty-level construction worker from Dana Point, CA" the very same doctors and bankers would have been lined up around the block to fight for your wallet hand in marriage.

I was brought up to be one of those women. All my life my mother wanted me to believe in fairy tales, and to hunt for my Prince above all else -- just like she always did. In my family your life is not complete without a band of gold on your third left-hand finger. Thankfully you don't always become what you're raised to be. Because I'd rather be single for the rest of my days than to coo over men riding up on horses and making the Filene's Basement Sale look like a cakewalk so I could attend the ball in style.

Of course, that said -- yep, we'll be tuning in again next week. Todd claims it's to marvel at the beautiful chateau and French countryside. I just want to see if any of my distant cousins are among the contestants. Yeah, that's it...

P.S. Did any of you ladies out there find him even remotely attractive? I sure didn't.



Hey boy take a look at me...let me dirty up your mind...



maybe its the pain meds talking but i think he's cute in that rugged handsome way. and construction worker, yeah baby, built, musclebound. mmm. i may have to watch next week...lol

¤ ¤ credit: Kat | 01.06.03 at 10:20 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Body, yeah I can see. He was built. But the face and hair? Just did not do it for me. I guess I've always liked my men a little on the geeky side. ;-)

¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 01.06.03 at 10:22 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

see, then it must be the drugs...lol i will have to watch next week ...lol

¤ ¤ credit: Kat | 01.06.03 at 10:28 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

meh. he wasn't bad. once in awhile they'd catch him at an angle where you'd think "hey, he's really cute", but most of the time i was thinking "ehh.. not bad." but i tend to go for the geekier guys too ;)

i'm watching it for the entertainment factor - the "oh my god, how can you be so freaking stupid just for a guy who you THINK is a multimillionaire?!" factor, to be exact. ;)

¤ ¤ credit: C. | 01.06.03 at 10:35 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Sorry, if I knew anybody on that show I'd pretend I didn't. The way they acted over the dresses...and there was just something demeaning about the pearl necklaces...was that just me??

But yeah, we'll be watching again next week too.

There were moments when I thought he was kinda ruggedly handsome, but then his hair would get messed up, or he'd be a dork getting on the horse, or he'd dance like a moron, and he lost his charm.

¤ ¤ credit: Tracy | 01.06.03 at 10:39 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Oh I thought the jewelry scenes (tonight and in next week's preview) were totally demeaning. Kinda like having the Julia Roberts whore-syndrome from "Pretty Woman". Only in the end, he'd come pick you up in a Chevy instead of a limo. ;-)

¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 01.06.03 at 10:42 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

[in my best Marcia voice] he's so dreeeeeeeeeamy!

Actually, I missed the show (thank god, sounds about as bad as 'the bachelor' but what I want to know is how many women are already in 'love' with him after just seeing him once? That always cracks me up.

¤ ¤ credit: Jay | 01.06.03 at 10:43 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I did the same thing actually. I watched parts of the first Survivor. I watched most of Temptation Island, I'm sorry to admit. After that, I swore it all off. It just got more ridiculous and crappy. But tonight the hubby and I both sat down and tuned in. (Along with the rest of the world, I bet.)

I totally agree with you. He's looking for a woman that likes him for him, but there is no way you could determine that... in that setting, that way. It just wouldn't happen.

I wish Heidi would've got the axe, but then again, they're probably making her into The Wench With Attitude. I liked Zola, until she did something odd (I can't remember what). At this point, I'm cheering for Melissa.

Sadly, it's all about how the networks steer you... what they show you... what they don't show you. Melissa might have been just as catty as Heidi, but they don't show that side of her.

Me? Analyze things too much? Never! ;)

We'll tune in next week too. If to watch nothing other than Heidi's cattiness, which is bound to be coming.

Chick fight! Chick fight! (Hopefully they can find some mud on the castle grounds... lol)

¤ ¤ credit: GeekGrrl | 01.06.03 at 11:03 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Personally... he kind of reminded me of Shrek... :) Just not as green!

¤ ¤ credit: Deb | 01.06.03 at 11:09 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I'm really interested in seeing what happens. There's a quality about him: I can just see him standing up and saying "Screw you all. I'm worth less than this damned horse. How do you like me now?"

Somehow, I doubt it'll happen, but I'm hoping.

¤ ¤ credit: Jen | 01.06.03 at 11:22 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

his eyebrows....YUCK!

¤ ¤ credit: bird | 01.06.03 at 11:24 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

For some reason I think the idea for the show is so sickening it's funny! HOW CRUEL IS THAT!? HAHAHAHA! *sinister laugh* I am glad I am not the one being lied to but, damn it's funny....

¤ ¤ credit: queen | 01.06.03 at 11:26 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Apparently, Joe Millionaire can't afford highway tolls.
(via Smoking Gun)

¤ ¤ credit: courtney | 01.06.03 at 11:36 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

shit! I forgot to watch it and forgot to set the TIVO in case I forgot to watch it! Josh and I wanted to watch it to check out the cheesy chicks who are only after the guy because of the $50M. Gotta go set the TIVO.....

¤ ¤ credit: Camille | 01.06.03 at 11:49 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Someone say they like their guys geeky???

heh

¤ ¤ credit: Jules | 01.07.03 at 12:18 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

I have no desire the watch the show, but I *do* want to see the episode where they find out he's not really worth $50mil. I just want to see their faces when they realize they're gonna have to come up with a good reason why they suddenly can't marry him, or they're gonna have to fake loving a construction worker. Please, keep me up to date!

¤ ¤ credit: theresa | 01.07.03 at 01:06 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

like a moth to a frickin flame, i was drawn to that show...

i found myself actually saying "Ha! You dumb bitch" every time one of them would go off on their little "fairy tale" interludes. buncha money-grubbin wenches. i instantly rooted against anyone who even remotely mentioned the money factor...

that being said, i was really rooting for Zola, who seemingly stood in the wrong line at the audition place, cuz she soooo did not fit in with the rest of them. i figured she wouldn't get picked, but she made the cut... go Zola!

as for the people who are likely to win, well... I guess I'd have to vote for Melissa. he was right; she's definitely got one hell of a smile.

dude, and what about those promos for "Married by America"? WTF is up with that? the audience matches two people for marriage? hell, i'd call and match the two worst people possible, just to fuck with these attention hounds!

¤ ¤ credit: mikey | 01.07.03 at 01:15 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

This is so sad to admit, but I was drawn to this show the same way some people are drawn to Jerry Springer: there's an evil satisfaction to be had while watching people make asses of themselves.

I'm really hping Heidi gets axed next week. My guy friend dubbed her the Trailer Trash Princess. Watching her look at his hand, I blurted, "Dude! That's a bar pick up gesture!" Let me read your palm. Ooooh, you have such a long liiiiife line...

GeekGrrl, is the Zora moment you're thinking of when she first met him and thought she had tangerine stuck in her teeth?

All in all, I think the boy is cute, but not the sharpest crayon in the box. He made a few references to wanting to find somebody that would love him for him. Let my California roots show as I say, "Dude." He's meeting all of these girls on a *false pretense*. He couldn't even tell that one girl his middle name. He made up lies during the "question and answer" session. How are they supposed to love him for his "true self" when that hasn't come out? Is the fact that he might honestly be a really nice guy supposed to override all the other cockamamie things he's spewed?

I'll be tuning in next week to see who gets canned.

¤ ¤ credit: April | 01.07.03 at 02:53 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

Of course, we watched, too. I think if he would cut his damn hair, then he would be nice looking. Can I reiterate for the ump-teeth time how disgusting longer hair is on guys? [Sorry, bad flashbacks of rocker boyfriends who never showered there for a moment.] We'll also be watching The Bachelorette.

¤ ¤ credit: Ashley | 01.07.03 at 06:46 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

We only watched the last 10 minutes last night, but the whole thing is just the sort of spectacle that only Fox could produce.

After the scene at the end where Joe says how badly he feels about deceiving these women and then next week's previews when he says they'll pick out those who are just in it for the money, my husband asked wouldn't it be best if the greediest of all won it. I think he's right, we should pull for the most money-hungry one of the bunch to get selected only to find out about the hideous lie. No point ruining a semi-normal woman's life.

¤ ¤ credit: Angela | 01.07.03 at 06:54 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

April, yes! That was it. It was The Tangerine Question. That was so completely stupid. I mean, truly. Check your teeth before you meet your date for gosh sakes.

It was second only to the Finger Assessment of Heidi's. She looked like she was going to jump his bones right there on the dance floor. Can we all say "Hoochie Mama" together? ;)

¤ ¤ credit: GeekGrrl | 01.07.03 at 08:22 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

I can't believe that we watched it...or that I want to tune in again next week. I'm like Todd, I was all about the castle and the French countryside. In fact, I can't wait until next week when they go out in the Loire Valley...I mean they showed castles like Chenonceau on the preview.

But I digress, we only watched it cause I happened to be telling Shawn how appalled I was at the concept and he saw it was on according to the TV Guide Channel.

He's an ok looking guy, if he would cut that mane of hair. As for the pearl necklaces, I felt like I was watching a very cruel sorority pin the girls they liked while ignoring the others!

¤ ¤ credit: Sara | 01.07.03 at 08:27 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

okay. he's on Good Morning America right now and he is gross! yucky hair and yucky eyebrows! eeewwww.

¤ ¤ credit: Camille | 01.07.03 at 08:51 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

HAHAHAHA - I actually went to college with one of said "bimbos" - Melissa W. The redheaded chick that didn't talk much and was winking at everyone when the necklaces were handed out - GAG! We were both PR majors here in Ohio.

She was an intelligent girl and seeing her on there suprised me, but she was also kind of a henious wench with a capital W, so guess it all makes sense. I have never laughed so hard in my life! I was torn between not wanting her to get picked and seeing her look pitiful and wanting her to get picked so I could see if she turned into a cat-fighting spitfire.

Too funny.

¤ ¤ credit: Charity | 01.07.03 at 08:52 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

One more thing I forgot - I agree about Zola/Zora. She didn't quite fit in but I like her a lot! She's the girl at the beginning who didn't "ohhhh and ahhhh" over the money and castle and you don't see her complaining or getting gossipy with the other chicky-poos. She also said she was just happy to be there because it was a nice change from her unheated and cockroach infested apartment. I'm thinking she could love the guy for him.

And the wierd thing she did was ask if she had tangerine bits in her teeth when she first talked to him at the ball, which was just human and normal and nice, not so "I must impress him now!"

¤ ¤ credit: Charity | 01.07.03 at 08:57 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

I thought he was vaguely attractive, but the second he opened his mouth it ruined the effect.

¤ ¤ credit: Nicole | 01.07.03 at 09:14 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

Wait a minute, did someone mention that Todd actually liked something French?

¤ ¤ credit: John | 01.07.03 at 09:48 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

Also from the Smoking Gun, pics of this guy in some skimpy stuff. I thought it was at the very least ... not revolting to look at. What's up with his eyes???

¤ ¤ credit: Andrea | 01.07.03 at 10:34 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

I cannot WAIT for the manure shoveling to begin!

¤ ¤ credit: Jennifer | 01.07.03 at 11:42 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

aw, geekgrrl... how could you not like Z for that tangerine thing? that's what won me over! it made her a "real" person... you know, the shy, quiet girl that you could meet at the grocery store and talk to. all the other bitches, you'd more likely meet them at an upscale bar/club, thumbing their noses at us "regular" people.

i've always been attracted to people as doofy as me, i guess.

¤ ¤ credit: mikey | 01.07.03 at 12:36 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

oh, i agree, mikey...i liked it too because it's one of those incredibly embarrassingly weird things people do when they are too nervous to realize how strange it is.

however, i'm holding back any "oh, she's the best one!" feelings because while she seems to me to be the nicest and most genuine woman there, it's just as geekgrrl said: it's all about how the networks steer you... what they show you... what they don't show you. zola could be the biggest money-grabbing wench who wants out of her roach-infested apt. i hope not because i like her, but she could be.

i'm completely torn as to whether i want to watch the next episode. my bf gave me a hard time for watching it all throught the episode but i have to admit i'm somewhat intrigued. i mean, these aren't just springer-grade woman. they are educated, independent and mostly suscessful women. and yet it doesn't seem to matter...

¤ ¤ credit: bitpixy | 01.07.03 at 01:50 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

It was exactly what I expected. Gotta love women fighting over men and dresses. Please......lol. If you want someone to like you for you....then don't pretend to have money...

¤ ¤ credit: Cheri | 01.07.03 at 01:53 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I have to admit I didn't watch it, but upon seeing the commercial and hearing how he was "trying to see who would like him for himself" I thought "Dude, you're going about this all wrong!" What I would do is find the biggest money-grubbing bitch in the batch and make sure she won and then get the ultimate pleasure of telling her that it was all a lie.

THAT would be fun *L*

¤ ¤ credit: Mike | 01.07.03 at 02:01 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I was planning on watching it, but I just couldn't do it. No matter how enticing the subject matter, it's still reality TV, and that nauseates me. Interestingly, we talked about it here at work this morning, and one of my brokers (a nice woman who's just a bit snooty) said "They were all too good for him." My answer to that was "How could those whores be too good for him?" The sole purpose for their existence in this situation is for the cash, and that makes them whores. The whole damn thing is like a Greek tragedy.

We all know how many will love him once it's over.

¤ ¤ credit: Lunchbox | 01.07.03 at 02:18 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Are there any poverty level construction workers from Dana Point, CA? Maybe poverty level construction company owners.

¤ ¤ credit: JP | 01.07.03 at 04:10 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I (the reality show ho) did not watch it... i don't even know who i am anymore.

¤ ¤ credit: yvonne | 01.07.03 at 04:32 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

i'm not going to watch the show simply because the commentary of everyone else who watches the show is much more entertaining. besides, nothing beats a reality show like Real World New York circa 1990 (?)

¤ ¤ credit: Kathy | 01.07.03 at 06:15 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

PUCK!

¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 01.07.03 at 06:16 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

you want a lie? man, those Real World shows were a lie! real world my ass. yeah, the real world consists of living in a swanky apt with all the goodies attached, and flying across the country at a moment's notice. oh, and not having a job, but still managing to afford everything you want. yeah, that's real.

¤ ¤ credit: mikey | 01.07.03 at 06:36 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I didn't watch the premiere episode but I'm sure I'll tune in for an upcoming episode. Not to be snob, but one thing that would piss me off is not that he didn't REALLY have any money, but that he wasn't educated. I wonder if they fabricated his schooling. Of course, I suppose this is not a major consideration for any of these women.

¤ ¤ credit: ursula | 01.07.03 at 11:49 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Ok, first, I haven't seen the show, so maybe it has charm or something, but all in all this is more trash TV.

How it is possible that ANY woman he ends up with at the end of the show, she gets the "big surprise" (that sounded kind of... dirty, actually) won't slap him in the face and walk out on the WORLD"S BIGGEST LIAR? We can certainly argue the values of all these people, but in the end, this relationship was started in deception, and that never works. It's gonna end that way, and we all know it.

Excuse me.. I have to get back to squishing my tub of sour grapes, because I don't a french villa of hot chicks fawning over my fake ritches.

¤ ¤ credit: Quinn | 01.08.03 at 12:20 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

Mikey, I guess it was because it came off as fake to me. Like she was trying to be different, and normal. It wasn't like she was really concerned about the tangerine. She was concerned about getting him to look at her closely... or something.

Judging from the comments on this entry, I'd say Fox has a hit... lol

The next one will probably be a chick with men fawning over her.

¤ ¤ credit: GeekGrrl | 01.08.03 at 10:05 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

Mikey - at least we know that the swanky apartment is a given... in The Bachelor, these ladies have NO CLUE that he's not rich and the whole setup is fake. well, i guess that's more reality... because when the girls find out, they'll realize they were only in it for the good looks and the money and the swanky pad.

¤ ¤ credit: Kathy | 01.08.03 at 10:16 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

ahhhhh...but, Geekgrrl, it seems to me that this is a one shot type of show.

people will be more wary of "millionare" type shows from now on, don't you think?

¤ ¤ credit: bitpixy | 01.08.03 at 03:56 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

GeekGrrl is right -- FOX at least met its goal -- highest ratings in 8 years!

¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 01.08.03 at 04:09 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I heard a rumor that his last name is really Marriott and he is heir to the Marriott money. The joke would be on the audience, then, because he truly would be rich...

¤ ¤ credit: Ashley | 01.08.03 at 07:35 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Oh his last name is definitely Marriott. This is what the Smoking Gun has dug up on him thus far:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/ewmarriott1.html
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/marriott1.html

¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 01.08.03 at 07:49 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

By the way, speaking of Puck, did anybody see the thing MTV is showing now, the Battle of the Sexes thing? Made up of all cast from Road Rules, Real World, and Campus Crawl? Maybe it's re-runs, but I just caught the first one last night, and Puck got into it with some guy from the get go! Granted, Puck was actually NOT the bigger jerk, for once.

¤ ¤ credit: Tracy | 01.08.03 at 10:10 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

ah...what i meant is that i don't think future contestants will be so easy to fool if they have another fake millionare show. i'm quite sure Geekgrrl is right about fox's rating are getting a boost from the show. i just think that from now on contestants are going to have the mindset that they could be getting duped and their prince is really a pauper. or maybe they just aren't bright enough to see they might wind up on a similar show...

i've also heard the rumor that he's really a Marriott heir (and the name is more than coincidence). if it's true, i suppose this is one way to weed out a gold-digger. pick the girl, tell her you're actually poor, see how she reacts, then tell her you're worth $100mill...

¤ ¤ credit: bitpixy | 01.09.03 at 02:06 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Did you see him bump his nose when he tried to get back on the horse LMAO!!!

¤ ¤ credit: stacey | 01.10.03 at 08:28 PM | link--this ¤ ¤




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