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Posted: 06.14.2002
It's a clean machine
Ok, can the new pMachine blog converts let me in on a little secret... Do you have to make people register in order to comment at your site now? Is this part of the software? Because quite frankly, I have too many friggin' registrations to keep track of elsewhere. The last place I want to do it is for all the blogs I read now as well.

Anyone else bugged by this (or have any idea of what I'm talking about)? Am I being too cranky? I'm not saying the software isn't the latest, greatest thing since Movable Type, because I haven't even tried it yet. But if registration is not required in order to make the software work properly, registration should be optional on your sites! And to think I got bitched at because I used to ask people to just leave an e-mail address so I could e-mail them with comment responses...

Hey boy take a look at me...let me dirty up your mind...

i am so, sooooooo bothered by this too, and i'm sure i don't even have half the registrations that you do. it's just too friggin much to keep track of. but i dig J/E so much, i'm sure i'll end up registering for her site... *grumble*

huh-huh... you said "pee machine"

¤ ¤ credit: mikey | 06.14.02 at 05:59 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

YES! I am not the only one that giggled at that name! Once again, our minds are joined down there in the gutter...

¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 06.14.02 at 06:02 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

amen girl! registering for anything bugs me, but especially just to comment on someone's blog. and of course there are people who i'll end up doing it for, but it doesn't make it any less annoying.

p.s. i'm pretty sure it's not a madatory part of the software - as she (http://www.bluezfire.org) has been using it on her site for a while, and i've never had to register to comment.

¤ ¤ credit: zalary | 06.14.02 at 06:15 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I know there's a paid version and a free version -- wasn't sure if the paid version was the one with registration optional or what. I truly, sincerely hope this isn't the newest trend in blog commenting though. You just know eventually registrations are going to be sent to the wrong place (advertisers), given enough time...

¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 06.14.02 at 06:26 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I have to agree with Robyn. It's bad enough we have to register for commercial sites, but now, blogs?

I prefer to keep my blog open to anyone who wants to read it. If someone wants to be an asshole when commenting, I know how to ban IP addresses...have already had to do it a few times already!

I love MT and will NEVER switch! :-)

¤ ¤ credit: Christine M. | 06.14.02 at 06:34 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

MT is the biz-omb in blogging, yo.

¤ ¤ credit: John Kenneth Fisher | 06.14.02 at 07:03 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

i think you're absolutely right. i would/have registered with blogs that i currently read regularly. however, new blogs i probably wouldn't bother. i think the registration is going to keep a lot of people away. <shrug> to each his own, i suppose.

¤ ¤ credit: julie | 06.14.02 at 07:19 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I installed the free version of pMachine and went through all the motions of installation (very easy and nice) and configuration.

But . . .

No. You don't have to make people register to comment on your site. It's an option that can easily be turned off and on. Honestly, if you want some powerful blogging software I highly recommend pmachine. I love moveabletype but there's just ten times more options with pmachine's use with php and mysql. If you want something simpler use moveabletype . . . something simpler . . . blogger (heavenforbid).

That's my take.

¤ ¤ credit: kevin | 06.14.02 at 08:10 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

As long as you don't post my email, I'm more than happy to give it. I actually like it when people email me to let me know they responded to a post. I try to remember to do it myself, though I usually just comment a second time. But I won't be registering for a blog anytime soon.

That's too much. I have a passworded diary; I understand the desire to keep people from reading the blog to begin with, but if you're going to let anybody read it, why wouldn't you want to let them comment? Doesn't make sense.

¤ ¤ credit: Cis | 06.14.02 at 09:41 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Alright, you dont need to requie members to register in the free version. When you register it will save all your information for the next time you comment (you don't have to enter it agian), I dont know if it has the 'save inforamtion' feature like MT has.

I just have the required membership for comments up because I was able to access information from others instead of looking it up in the comments, it's a bit easier.

I was asking around at the PM fourms and there is no hack yet to allow optional registration. I will be taking the registration off for comments untill there is a hack made.

¤ ¤ credit: michael | 06.14.02 at 10:38 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

Michael -- please don't feel like I was out on the attack! I wasn't... I'm just getting really stingy about registering with sites the more spam I get. Not that I think YOU would spam me...but just site registration in general... I honestly would like to learn more about the software and how those using it like it. I have to stay on top of these things! :-)

¤ ¤ credit: robyn | 06.14.02 at 11:47 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

God man no......... please don't come out with anything new. Of all that's holy, I'm fighting with mt now to get it running, and I'm still so wicked retarded that I can't even set comments up on my own site, that I have to get my addiction by commenting on everyone else's. Robyn, make the pmachine go away....

¤ ¤ credit: statia | 06.14.02 at 11:50 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I didn't feel like you were out on the attck, I just wanted to comment my view on pMachine and registering for blogs. I am also removing the registering for comments because a couple of people already told me they found it annoying. And like I said, where there is a hack, I will turn it back on for the users who want to use it.

¤ ¤ credit: michael | 06.15.02 at 12:57 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

I'm testing it out right now, and I really like it. For one thing, template management is *much* easier - you edit individual aspects of templates, rather than whole site pages, and use PHP includes to put them in the site. It's also much easier to understand and edit the template code than MT's code, which let's face it can behave a bit oddly at times (certainly in my experience). And personally, I consider the fact that you don't need to rebuild whole sites in order to see if one little code change has worked a huge benefit...

It's definitely worth a look. If nothing else, the free version has lots more options, and as a whole it's more flexible than MT...

¤ ¤ credit: Tina | 06.15.02 at 04:10 AM | link--this ¤ ¤


I totally know where you are coming from. In fact, I'm one of the people who expressed my annoyance with the registering for comments deal to mike @ drowsy central. As I told him, it's not personal, but why should I have to log into an account to comment on someone's site? People want feedback from their readers, so they should make it EASIER, not a p.i.t.a :)

¤ ¤ credit: nicole | 06.15.02 at 02:17 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

If you are using a Windows-PC, there is a simple solution at hand: a free program called RoboForm, available through any any of the major freeware/shareware sites (such as Download.com). You fill in your information once, including stuff like credit card info, street addresses, etc., and the program encrypts the data. Then whenever you come to a form for which the program has some or all of the necessary data, it will pop up and ask if you want it to fill in the fields. You fill in the rest. Then it asks if you would like it to save all of this information as a "passcard" for the next time you go to the site. The next time you go, it has all of the information so you don't have to fill anything in at all. If sites use similar form (for example, this comments form from Movable type, it can automagically fill in all of the data for you by clicking one button. It's a great program and the price sure is right.

¤ ¤ credit: Paul Graf | 06.15.02 at 04:58 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

I am a pmachine convert, and I really like it, but I do not use this feature. It has bugged me from the start and I don't like to see it on people's sites. I'm sure I am overreacting, but it seems like some sort of "exclusivity" feature where you have to join the club to read the blog. I have even decided not to comment when I have to register and I post all my info when I comment, it's not like I'm being anonymous. Whew, I feel better now. ;-)

¤ ¤ credit: Trish | 06.15.02 at 09:08 PM | link--this ¤ ¤

The registration is optional, but I opted to turn it on because it allows me to collect birthdays of readers to send them greetings, and it allows me to make some pages accessible only to logged-in users. I figured I'd put more personal entries and extras up as a reward.

Another factor was the fact that I do have one or two people who leave pretty rude comments at my blog, and when I was with MT they just used fake email addresses. Now they're still welcome to attack me, they just have to be willing to supply me with an email address to which to aim my rebuttal.

Trish, you don't have to "join the club" to read the blog. I pulled the following from the registration page at digitalwoe.com:

I know what you're thinking. What on earth is the point of requiring membership for a personal site? Well, I don't exactly REQUIRE membership. People can come and go as they please and enjoy my site (or laugh hysterically at it) just fine without having to offer any personal details of their own.

But I do appreciate it when those reading all about my personal life offer a few minor pieces of information back to me. A name. An e-mail address. A website. Whatever. These people are rewarded by being given total access to my website. They are allowed to post comments and they're given special access to a members-only area where I post non-public thoughts and feelings.

¤ ¤ credit: Erynn | 06.17.02 at 07:03 AM | link--this ¤ ¤

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